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Comment by Wildhorn Video of Gegon, the Last Ovski, one if not THE best mage in vanilla wow. He often fight vs multiple players at sametime and is often at very low.

Abracadavra

As much as i dislike mmo-champion, I couldn t resist posting the new changes here.

Anyway, as far as I understand this, we are getting nerfed again.

Deep Freeze Spells which benefit from Shatter will break this effect.

Source:

Salbookx

so essentially any mage damage at all will break it lol

funny with a stun that the mage himself can t nuke into, but everyone else can :3

wait for non-datamined though

90 Blood Elf Mage

8475

I don t know what or who generates those changes, but is it just me or every single buff listed there is already live.Aside from greater inviz which will still be. untill they put it in their heads that it needs to be reliable first and then worry about a cd for it.

They threw them in there just to mask / balance the nerfs. :D

Ice flows is bad design in my eyes when put on cd.It should be like shield block/charge, with rechargable charges.They just made it more appealing to arcane only because they put a mana cost on scorch.

This first talent tier and other talents tiers in general aside from mage bombs are going from a little choice to begin with feel to a it doesn t matter anymore, all the options won t make a difference.

My eyes are on fire at the moment.

Also stolen from US forums.

The REAL list of Mage Changes 5.2FROST:

- Deep freeze now is a polymorph stun that heals the target and breaks on damage. It also grants the target enrage for 20 seconds, increasing damage done by 30

- Cone of Cold now gives the mage cold hands and they can t cast another frost spell for 5 seconds

- Ice Block is now so thick that a mage cannot breathe, the lax of oxygen causes damage the exact same way drowning in water does.

- Frost Bomb has been renamed Water balloon, and hurls a non-lethal waterballoon at a target, dealing no damage but causing the target to become wet for the next minute, also granting the target enrage for this time, increasing damage by 15

FIRE:

- Critical Mass now increases the critical multiplier on spells by. 75. If the mage doesn t take this talent they suffer a permanent debuff which doesn t allow them to crit with fire spells. Merry. 1ng christmas mages.

- Pyroblast now has a 1 minute cooldown

- Inferno Blast now goes from a guranteed crit to a baseline 20 crit chance

- Fire does not have access to deep freeze

- Living Bomb now causes the target to stay living as long as the bomb is up, instead of doing damage it will now heal the target for 8,463 per second for the duration

ARCANE:

- Nether tempest now pulls the mage into twisting nether, somewhere between netherstorm and hellfire peninsula. If the mage is in arena, RBG, or raid, they will be pulled out of it.

- Polymorph now turns the target into an angry battle sheep which can move as it wishes, is healed, and can attack targets with an ability called WOEFUL WOOL STRIKE for a baseline 100k damage

- Arcane Blast no longer grants arcane charges

- Arcane Barrage has a 3 minute CD

- Mastery has been reworked to increase damage done by incredible numbers when the mage is at exactly 37.6 mana. Otherwise it has no effect

- Counterspell has been removed from the game. Not silences, just mage counterspell.

This is over the top. Will make mages quite useless in pvp.

90 Night Elf Death Knight

12660

It s the very first datamined build. To early to go crazy..

But it s lookin iffy so far ;o

Selkäsauna

90 Human Warrior

11635

It s funny that when mages get a real big nerf they are all like OMG WERE THE MOST NERFED CLASS IN WOW ILL QUIT

Regardless of that, the Deep Freeze change on PTR is just idiotic. They should find another way to tone Deep burst down.

The Critical Mass change - Obviously a datamining error. I mean, geez, think with your brains if you have them.

So in 5.2 Deep Freeze will be just an instant poly. 0_o

I guess mage will be useless

We do like 0 dmg without deep bursts

Edited by Zilpui on 22/12/2012 GMT

90 Goblin Mage

10820

There is a hell lot of funny changes, like Greg said in twiter more mage nerfs to come. :D wonder when he plans to shtopit.

Youwantthis

Why didn t I level a Shammy :

relax, you get stormlash totem copy in 2 expansions m8

Nereides

100 Blood Elf Mage

15705

And here I was thinking they didn t want to nerf my pve experience I kinda need deep freeze against a bit harder stuff I need to nuke like rares or random bosses lest they get to nuke my face in. Breaking on one shatter damage would be stupid as hell. .

And pretty sure invocation nerf makes it just a glorified RoP, I dont like. :/

Here s hoping my pet freeze will remain most unchanged it would be absolute. if I had to walk around with a most likely very very buggy water jet or cleave on a boss that would greatly benefit from having freeze hit two targets, but not being able to use freeze at all.

Damn u datamined information, makes me mad.

Edited by Nereides on 22/12/2012 GMT

The REAL list of Mage Changes 5.2

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Тимофектор

100 Orc Mage

6630

Stop f-ing nerfing us for god s sake.

Itstutzalol

Mage

Invocation now removes Evocation s cooldown and reduces its channeling time and duration by 50. A completed Evocation now grants 15 increased damage was 25 for 1 minute was 40 seconds after an Evocation is completed.

Passive mana regeneration is reduced by 50 only while Invoker s Energy is active.

Greater invisibility now has a 90 second cooldown was 2.5 minutes.

Frostbolt cast by Mirror Images now deals 50 more damage.

Improved Counterspell has been removed.

Glyph of Fire Blast has been replaced with Glyph of Inferno Blast. Glyph of Inferno Blast

causes damage over time effects spread by Inferno Blast to spread to 1 additional target.

Blazing Speed can now be triggered at will.

Cold Snap now heals the Mage for 15 of maximum health when used was 30.

Ice Floes now has a 45 second cooldown was 1 minute.

Scorch now costs 3.5 of base mana was 0.1.

Arcane

Arcane Blast s mana cost has been increased to 1.66667 of base mana was 1.5.

Frost

Frostbolt now deals 24 more damage, but its debuff no longer increases subsequent Frostbolt damage.

Water Elemental

Freeze no longer does damage, and only provides Fingers of Frost on a successful freeze.

Are they seriously trying to make fire not viable for pvp. Mages are gna go oom fast as hell Improved counterspell gone.

YAY for nerf

Edited by Gummypanda on 22/12/2012 GMT

fire not viable for pvp

Fire is not good for PVE atm :D

Well it is early stage of testing so maybe some patch notes come with some buffs. But now It looks like fire will be dead spec in 5.2 in pvp and pve also. I was wating for some major changes for lvl 90 talents but it seems i will have to still play with this akward mana regen talens play another content.

Edited by Sinndor on 22/12/2012 GMT

Regestin

100 Gnome Mage

19420

Arcane Blast mana cost has been increased to 1.66667 of base mana was 1.5.

So basically this will affect Arcane for PvE since scorchweaving is essential for keeping 6 stacks of AC and Arcane Blast itself will requare more mana. This is ridiculous for the spec which requare to keep mana as close to 100 as possible.

And using of Arcane Barrage will result in DPS loss, probably not gamebreaking but still arcane will do less DPS.

And with that:

Rune of Power now your mana regeneration is increased by 75 when standing in the rune, down from 100.

I m not sure how Arcane mages suppose to keep up mana at high . Mana cost of main damaging spell will be increased while regeneration will be reduced.

Edited by Regestin on 22/12/2012 GMT

90 Undead Mage

13160

Is this the end of Fire mage PvP.

BITC - Pleasy this is the end of the mage.21/12/2012 patch 5.2 killed mages in every aspect.

So ANOTHER -10 damage loss with the new Invocation and still no combustion change.

This is ridiculus.

Atleast they could boost Scorch damage a bit.

Kerkevos

94 Undead Mage

8290

I don t understant why everyone is complaing about mages. If you play 3v3 and your healer isn t a stupid. , he will dispell the deep and the bomb. We have to put the bomb on a target, deep him and then use fire blast so the bomb will explode, but any decent healer with a brain knows that he has to dispell the bomb and the deep. Also the mage can be silenced, or interrupted while casting that bomb. Now you forced us to play with Nether Tempest. That s the most stupid playstyle in WoW. To dot everyone and wait for the procs. I m not a fire mage or a moonkin or whatever. I m a frost mage. I don t want any dots.

There was a lot of screen shots that Blizzard take seriously for 150 - 200 k crit frost bomb in arena.The thing Bliz didn t see is that This 200 k crits was made on 200 rate in 2v2 on PVE geared player from full PVP geared mage.I hope more nerfs come till 5.2 release because playing a mage now us not really interesting..

100 Human Mage

16800

The scorch mana change was sort of announced on Twitter already a few days ago. GC said something like once we fix scorch spamming in arcane, arcane will be fine. They felt it wasn t intended and it was allowing arcane to do too much damage in PvE.

The deep freeze shatter change is only mentioned on the datamined MMO Champion notes. It s not part of the official notes. I think it s either a datamining mistake or something a PTR experiment that will not go live. It s too big of a change for solo PvE play too, in my opinion.

Tervanar

100 Gnome Warrior

My guess it s like that since the start of TBC when melee classes has actually lost their superiority to casters, especially mages and had no idea how to counter them. Since then everybody just used to talk about OP mages. And mages were slightly above other castes during last 2 expansions.

Usually most of the complains against mages are not grounded by any actual numbers so it s impossible to tell what exactly they mean by OP. There were many complains about CC abilities of mages while most of those who complain are forgetting about their own mobility, amount of armor, instant melee spells no need to cast unlike mage and selfheals.

Edited by Tervanar on 22/12/2012 GMT

At the start of MoP and with the changes that blizzard were making, I thought this expansion might turn out to be pretty good a couple of seasons in.

I do not think this anymore.

I like that rogues are laughing at us, but they don t realize that mage rogue was the best comp in 2s and RMP was the best comp in 3s cata.

16845

Hopefully the Deep Freeze change won t make it as it would make the spell essentially useless.

At least they re taking steps to make Invocation less of a hassle, but there s still the problem of trying to tie it to the pre-pull for maximum DPS. Adding an effect like they were considering for 5.1 where you can Evocate and get the buff up for the next pull and get maximum uptime would be useful there.

Incanter s Ward still needs a lot of work to reduce the effects of RNG. It s a shame they re not scapping these talents entirely like they ve done with a few classes, but I suppose it is early days.

Cold Snap change seems bizarre as the talent isn t exactly fantastic, a problem with several other mage talents.

Freeze not doing any damage is actually quite useful for older content, and I hope they do the same with Frost Nova. Still hope Water Jet makes it in this time, and I d still kill for a way to ditch the Elemental entirely.

Edit: Nevermind,

Edited by Ezzpify on 22/12/2012 GMT

Firebaby

17160

Deep freeze change was probably made by the same brilliant mind as the 3sec pyro cd, and it will probably get applied only to frost. Fire is already nerfed enough, since blast wave got removed. I guess the same guy came up with that one too.

Edited by Firebaby on 22/12/2012 GMT

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90 Human Paladin

13780

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90 Tauren Death Knight

11435

hahaha fotm reroller tears.

I can t remember this level of sustained nerfs directed at our class. Wave after wave of attacks on abilities that are basically totemic to Mages.

Hopefully what comes out at the end of the PTR isn t anywhere near as bad as what it looks like above.

Drakearex

90 Human Rogue

5530

Mmmh they taste so nice.

I think half of these notes wont make it live anyway.

But what I think it shouldnt be is that Fire should be entirely seperated from Frost, this crap about Deep Freeze, how the hell is Fire going to exist or not exist in PvP I do see the point of this Deep Freeze nerf and I kinda like it, but the thing is, every other class should be skillcap depended too and mostly healers, because with this new state of Deep Freeze its going to be like one spell burst with skill timing and everything, otherwise one other CC.

What Im talking about is that with these changes mage will no longer be burst class, but what about other classes like warriors when they pop cooldowns and destroy everything in their way.

Personaly I see where this is going and Im pretty sure Deep Freeze change wont make it live.To me its just stupid idea, just like Pyroblast on 3 sec cooldown, I dont take it seriously at all.

Edited by Emusnoc on 22/12/2012 GMT

The deep freeze change isn t in the official patch notes.

The deep freeze change isn t in the official patch notes. Yes it is click the link and scroll down to mage, Then look at the first patch note..was that so hard to find.

now cry so i can drink you re tears.

5480

Yes it is click the link and scroll down to mage, Then look at the first patch note..was that so hard to find.

No, it s not. Go to this link and scroll down to mage. Then look for deep freeze. Was it hard to find.

Acualy in this update I dont see deep Freeze there at all:

And thank god for that. But the sentence Don t miss our post of all of the changes that didn t make the official notes. still bothers me. :S

mmm tears tears..sweet tears..

Warrior class is getting look at too and much more than Mage .

Let me remind you :

Shockwave now has a 40 second cooldown was 20 seconds, striking 3 or more targets will reduce its cooldown by 20 seconds.

Second Wind now causes a Warrior that has been reduced to 35 health or lower to regenerate 2 of their health per second was 3, and now generates 15 Rage over 10 seconds was 20 Rage.

Glyph of Death from Above no longer increases the damage dealt by Heroic Leap.

Frostbolt cast by Mirror Image now deals 50 more damage.

Makes me sad. Another instant cooldown to align. Another tool for more burst on demand :

The mirror image buff is explained like this: currently fire arcane get more DPS from them by glyphing that ability. Frost doesn t. Buffing MI frostbolts brings the ability to the same level as the fire/arcane glyphed version, making the glyph optional it s a minor glyph, so it shouldn t be a DPS boost and giving the same benefit to frost mages.

90 Worgen Rogue

8040

wat.

1 CS no longer is a silence.. We have had that as a skill for a while now and I dont like the change. I personally have always been one to aim for lockouts anyway, but lets face it, with the number of instants both heals and offensive spells out there, there is little to lockout. Maybe change successful lockout to also silence..

2 Cold snap now heals 15 pretty crappy and still only refreshes IB, Nova and CoC. Yet Rogues are now getting prep as baseline should be anyway. Cold snap should at least now 0 Ice Barrier cooldown like it used to. Would honestly prefer Cold snap being baseline and moving something new into its slot.

3 Ice Floes and Blazing speed are both talents in brackets where we really only have one choice POM and Ice barrier. I still might try ice floes as it will at least make frostbolt easier to use vs melee.

Siniwelho

12590

Yes, this will be interesting because the listed changes to Scorch and Rune of Power will take Arcane back to where it was in 5.0. Well, almost back because they buffed the damage increase of Arcane Charges in 5.1, but a 5 -6 dps buff will not make 5.0-style Arcane a viable raiding spec in 5.2

I know that Blizzard has told that they only want tweak numbers in patch 5.2. But for example rogues got two new level 90 talents. So maybe there is still hope because it is almost impossible to make Arcane a viable spec without any bigger changes.

Heatspell

100 Night Elf Mage

13200

Pyroblast now has a 1 minute cooldown that a punch in the face thanks blizz

Stop freaking crying and adjust, you can always learn how to play better when something is nerfed even with this nerf mages will still be at the top of PvP and PvE with dps

What do you mean by still be at the top of PvP and PvE with dps. Mages are not top DPS since 5.1 first hotfix I mean average not BiS geard and not too lucky with crits mage and keep falling.

for my mages

Haha, classic

Im so. ing tired of this.. Develop team, you truly suck and have prove that you are the best in the world in destroying games. Never a explanation, u dont give a - about feedback so stop. ing tell us that you base your Nerf/Buffs on that.

Best Regards

Maharadjan

This is some serious bull. . They nerfed mage to hell already and they keep nerfing us W T F. soon no point play mage, blizzard need focus other OP classes. I m so tierd of this now. Without IMP Counter Spell how are u ever gonna kill a healer. lol.

Also is like they change stats, every week now, is like i need learn to play my mage all over again cuz of this bull

Wish to god blizzard would nt listen to all the whiny kids, rather play a mage themself and see how it is, not just listen to idiots and think they do something right with endless nerf and changes to our class. /. /. . FASPNFØ LAKJFNO. Y Y.. .

Edited by Deuz on 22/12/2012 GMT

5865

the idea was to make mages in general weaker.

Hellfish

100 Undead Mage

15395

Finally, all of the FOTM re rollers will go away. D

Even with this change mages will still do good damage/burst.

Frost mages finger of frost and brainfreeze procs cause those attacks to act as if the target were frozen anyway. With the deep freeze change it could simply be used for a well timed frost bomb or as a form of CC.

Fire mages just need to use deep freeze more methodically, without a doubt there will be fewer pyroblast crits, however I don t think the damage will suffer to badly.

Greater Invisibility now has a 90 second cooldown was 2.5 minutes.

These are all good changes and help to overall balance the class.

We ve been the kings and queens of PvP for a while now, let s take our fall gracefully and not by spewing mouthfulls of aimless abuse towards Blizzard.

Hellfish did you stole some Mage account or what. This isnt a good change for balancing mages at all. All they could have done was to reduce the frostbomb damage with 25 and everything would have been fine. Instead they nerf almost every single spell, thats not making a class weaker in general, thats destroying a class.

Iwantacookie

Mages have been kings of PvP against awful players since vanilla see: any 1vsx mage movie

Mages are average against competent players in 3v3, where the balancing should be aimed at.

90 Human Monk

6780

This pretty much.. I ve never seen mages as OP and a change like this.. im sorry for you i really am :/

Edited by Markosha on 22/12/2012 GMT

Deep Freeze is broken by spells which benefit from Shatter. - No longer exist.

So it will stay the same as it is now except Frost mages might cast Fristbolt more then usual.

I didn t stole some mage account I ve been playing my mage since 2005.

Frost bomb damage should have been reduced yes, but that wasn t the only problem.

Other spells needed to be toned down as well, spellsteal is an excellent example. You could gain all the buffs from a target and with the glyph heal yourself at the same time. So the reduced the number of potential spellsteal casts without mana regen from about 20 down to 5.

With ring of frost and PoM we could instantly freeze an entire enemy team for 10 seconds, even now we can still freeze 10 players.

Deepfreeze does provide a large amount of burst, yes. But as I previously stated whether or not the target is frozen has no effect on the ice lances and frostfire bolts under the effect of fingers of frost or brainfreeze. It really only has an effect on how fast we can burst someone down as frozen orb etc won t benefit from shatter or our mastery as easily.

It shouldn t be too problematic for fire either, although fire suffers more greatly from this nerfs effects.

Anyway, my standpoint on balancing mages through cata and mop has always been to do something with either Shatter or our mastery, and it looks like they finally have.

As a non-FOTM warrior who has become accustomed to the constant over-nerfing and over-buffing of warriors in completely the wrong ways if I had a penny for every post on the warrior forums asking for more sustained and less burst dmg I feel sorry for you guys. It must be a real shock to the system to get a pretty much first ever. nice game-changing nerf :D Don t worry, you get used to it eventually. Us warriors and mages should end our rivalry and become friends. We could start a nerf support group.

Though admittedly I have to lol at you about the counterspell nerf because of gag order, no hard feelings

Us warriors and mages should end our rivalry and become friends. We could start a nerf support group.

Sounds lovely, tbh I m happy with the nerfs.

Less FOTM re rollers playing the class and being good at it requires more skill, one of the reasons I enjoy playing my unholy DK.

happy Xmas noob mages D

Ok :

Thundadin

90 Blood Elf Paladin

10645

As much as i hate mages is deep freeze serious. xD

btw u will still be the top dps in pve and pvp which is not fair

I fail to see how it is unfair, somebody has to do the top dps, don t they.

Even so it s untrue we don t do the best PvP dps, there are other classes which can spit out insane damage as well.

Coldatheart

I don t care about pvp but so many arcane nerfs.. Having played both fire and arcane after 5.1 I can see why they might ve wanted to nerf the damage of arcane a bit but nerf scorch, arcane blast AND remove fire blast glyph on top of that. I m sure mages will be able to go back to fire and still do okeyish damage but mage was one of the staple dps classes in wow since vanilla. Was it really necassary to go this crazy with the nerfs. I had stopped playing mage as main after the end of tbc when they decided to buff hybrids but was excited to come back to the class when I thought they were making it a powerful dps class again. Might as well go back to some random hybrid after this cause what s the point of playing pure dps when others can do the same damage tank and heal.

100 Pandaren Monk

12865

Finally, all of the FOTM re rollers will go away. DI m just enjoying this with some popcorn.

This topic made my day. c:

Thats the way to put it.

So much QQ, and the patch isn t even on the PTR. And that shows - Deep Freeze did not change at all.

Just wait till the PTR is active and play a Mage in PvP for yourself, and give good feedback. QQing like this is as sad as it can get.

What people seem to forget is, that Frost is now more focussed on DD from Frostbolt, both your own as your mirror images. Thats change will make the damage output of Frost be way less about burst and more about controll. And wasn t burst the main issue in PvP. Or do you guys think that only Mages should have burst. Because thats the idea I get atleast.

85 Blood Elf Death Knight

6635

i thought RLS and triple dps were the best 3s comp D:

100 Night Elf Rogue

10385

Dear rogues coming and laughing at mages.

You are being d.cks, and whether or not this possible nerf is justified does not change that. Enjoy your less frustrating gameplay. Don t try to make this even less pleasant for mage players. This is half of the reason why we or at least, the sensible rogue players had to deal with so many other players coming and laughing at our nerfs. So seriously, stop.

I don t understand, 3 nerfs in a row. still not enough. wow..

Kizzyráscal

90 Undead Rogue

5910

Mages got buffs to dont jsut look at the nerfs and then head straight for the forums.

amirite.

First time not op, how does it feel.

Mages got buffs to dont jsut look at the nerfs and then head straight for the forums.Yeah cause I was really hoping my mirror images burst would be better.

Yeah cause I was really hoping my mirror images burst would be better.

/lol

9235

it s so fun, other classes then mages comming all the way to the mage forums saying get your heads up mages. it s not that bad.

Incubuss

98 Blood Elf Warrior

12740

NYAGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA..1..one.1.

Imagenation

90 Troll Mage

9960

Cold Snap now heals you for 15 of your maximum health, down from 30.

Deep Freeze is broken by spells which benefit from Shatter.First time not op, how does it feel.

You mean, first time completely worthless in PvP.

Edited by Dutchmagoz on 23/12/2012 GMT

The Deep Freeze change was taken out.

90 Undead Priest

5445

I think Santa heard my christmas wish :

Teleqraph

100 Undead Rogue

7925

xD we had the same wish c:

87 Blood Elf Warrior

7710

Cannot wait for these changes, it ll be nice to have the mages actually have to try to be good again.

You do realise that rogues will once again become unstoppable if these changes go live.

Of course he doesnt. So long as he has something to fuel his mage hate he will be happy.

Edited by Kaguros on 23/12/2012 GMT

90 Tauren Druid

10150

So all you have to do is put your pet on passive and be sure that every spell hits at the same time. I dont really see a problem it will still benefit from it right it wil just brake instead of giving your 1400 seconds to do your thing.

If DF nerf is true then i will just take the Ghandi passive approach vs Feral druids and sit down whilst they mangle me, cos DF and POM ROF is the only time we can do any damage to them 1 of which is always trinketed

Interitus

100 Worgen Warlock

15850

Merry nerfmas mages.

Edited by Interitus on 23/12/2012 GMT

FINALY :

omg poor mages only are like any other class after this, how will they survive

it is about time mages getting a serious nerf

Like any other class you say.

Hm, let s see.

Every class but mages can either wear something better than cloth or use some sort of tanking pet or endlessly heal themselves some of the classes have few of those abilities at the same time. The only way mage can actually do anything is through CC and killing stuff before it will be able to hit the mage.

Let s look on Brawlers guild as an example. For paladins and warriors it s walk in the park while mages are actually struggle to do this. Same with rare spawns, soloing content, etc.

If you ll bring up arena then probably you should check your game box if it s saying World of Arena anywhere on it. And according to arena ladders I see a lot of teams in top without mages at all while if mages are so OP then there should not be any other teams but those who has one or more mages in them.

Edited by Tervanar on 23/12/2012 GMT

Xhengshao

90 Pandaren Monk

8840

Stop f-ing nerfing us for god s sake

Oh yes, because you ve got it -So- bad. Go look at Marksmanship hunters or Retribution Paladins, then complain.

Onihouse

14555

every nerf on mages people post how we are just like other classes nowStop f-ing nerfing us for god s sake

So your solution to MM hunters and ret paladins being in a bad place is taking a random other class and nerfing them as well. Yes that makes perfect sense.

You ve brought up just 2 specs for 2 classes while mages has constant nerfs in all 3 possible specs.

And Retribution Paladins. Really. I mean really. It capable of doing the same DPS as fire mages. Is it considered bad for a plate wearing class which can seflheal and have a lot of protective abilities.

Hi there. I see that you never played end level content until the end of WotLK. Well let me tell you something, lad: Mages were an utility class from Vanilla to the end of WotLK in PvP. They were never seen as awesome imba nuke classes Except for PoM pyro, but that doesn t really count since frost mage was better back then aswell. They shouldn t have the same damage as other classes in PvP, they re not made for that. They re made for CC and utility. When these to aspects got combined in Cata, they went from really good to God mode. They just weren t intended that way from the beginning, so they either have to get nerfed in CC and utility or damage. Since players would cry even more if their damage got nerfed, this happened.

They shouldn t have the same damage as other classes in PvP, they re not made for that. They re made for CC and utility.

That s all good and well but there is one flaw with this logic. PvP is just one part of the game. CC and utility is useless in realities of PvE, both solo and group. Then When you re nerfing so called PvP damage why should it affect PvE. This is the main reason of frustration.

Blizzard is unwilling to separate PvP talents and skills from PvE. And balanced for PvP mage is basically most squishy and defenseless class in PvE. Because CC just doesn t work in raids or rare spawns. Blizzard has made almost every elite and rare mob immune to CC effects.

For example I m playing on RP PvE server for PvE experience and content. Why should I be affected by some arena balance. Have you ever tried to kill any rare spawn while playing mage on your own. It s just not possible. And at the same time DK, Paladin, Warrior, Shaman and some other classes have absolutely no problems with that. How is this balance.

Mage utility abilities is absolutely useless in raids. So you can t use it as an argument. This is not Vanilla or TBC anymore when mage utility was actually useful.

Actually, mages have always been a CC and BURST class.

TBC shattercombos were capable of taking away over half of people s health. Mage damage was also very strong in wotlk arcane being one of the biggest burst specs in the game and frost being very strong due to turreting frostbolts.

how does it feel.

90 Troll Priest

9070

probably not gamebreaking but still arcane will do less DPS.

Take a look at this mate

Arcane is untouchable by any other dps specc. It s not supposed to be that way. It needs a nerf.

Also, I can guarantee that the deep freeze change won t go live. Blizzard are obviously not that stupid.

I don t understand Blizzard s purpose with Greater Invisibility, less cooldown won t make the spell work.

Overheated

90 Human Mage

5265

PvP:

I think blizzard are way over their heads. Why take away counterspell this makes us the only class without a proper counter to spells, im aware of frost jaw but that sucks. Deep Freeze is a polymorph and so it heals wtf are blizzard thinking, are they dumb enough to not realize that we use deep freeze to deal damage, and whats up with that enrage it gives seriously 30 for 20 sec thats kinda like AVATAR so were giving them a basic buff thats worth 3 min of cooldown. Frost bomb is now Water Balloon what do you think we are KIDS.., how are we suppose to proc BRAIN FREEZE NOW and i mean seriously what was wrong with frost bomb it detonates after six seconds with a 10 second cooldown another. ed up -. ing from blizzard, is it just me or does water balloon make the opponent deal 15 more damage. ICE BLOCK MAKES US TAKE DAMAGE ummmm isnt the main cause of ice block to make us NOT TAKE DAMAGE. :O. CONE OF COLD so we kinda get a five sec silence out of it, if you think about it, it doesnt do much its already an attack that makes us have to be in an 8 yrd range of the target and it only slows them down. SCREW BLIZZARD your senses of judgement are nothing but garbage, instead of ing around with mages go pick on another class you IDIOTS

Arcane is untouchable by any other dps specc.

Heh. Yes, Arcane gets fine simulation results. But for a reality check you should visit World of Logs. After that you can call Arcane overpowerd - if you still want.

WTF did I just read.

Ludasmatyi

WTF Rogue, Hunter, Priest, DK can have silence and mages don t.

LOL.

Edited by Ludasmatyi on 24/12/2012 GMT

Iceshock

13960

Classic.. XD

Give it a few months and this is what Blizzard patch notes will look like. I have played since TBC and patches nowadays are just retarded.

10 man HC

Feng 1

Garajal top 10

Spirit kings top 10

Elegon 2

Rank 2 on two bosses in HoF

Overrepresented on all bosses in ToES.

If you are not generally topping meters in your group, you are probably doing something very wrong. Or you are outgeared by your affliction warlock. Pre 5.1 fire was untouchable. They nerfed it and then made arcane equally OP, just easier to play. I m pretty sure they will balance it for 5.2 though.

7265

This makes me a bit concerned about the viablility of mages. Esp. Fire. All through cata mages were at best slightly above average. When 5.0.5 hit we got a bit of a buff due to increased crits i do not have official numbers to confirm this. But we were still way below other classes like DK. With this latest nerf we will once again have serious mana issues and because we are very dependant on crits the reduced crit will seriously reduce our damage output.

Falsemode

i wish they would stop nerfing us know it is annoying for when i raid and dps is not at its best i tryed arcane other day coulndt hack it so went back fire and dps shot up again know :

I also tried the arcane route once and my dps dropped like a rock. I dont think it is because arcane is bad it is just i did not play it very well after all the time i played fire :

The play style is completely different and one needs to get used to the priorities and timing.

Or check:

And ironicly it shows that Arcane is 2nd after Affliction over all the current fights. Only in 25HC its Fury that are highest then Arcane and Affli. So at average those 2 specs do the highest DPS in a raid scenario.

Is that OP. Not really. This since a large group of spec can dish out about equal DPS. Although as always there are a few classes that do need some love.

Unknownmage

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100 Orc Warrior

19090

While they are tuning now glyphs aswell, they should remove Glyph of Polymorph.

Friedkitteeh

Deep Freeze change not on offical notes AKA never going to happen.

When I looked today there were 7 Arcane mages in the top tens of Mogu shan Vaults 10m Heroic mode. There were also:

11 Affliction warlocks

7 Retribution paladins

Are those specs overpowered too.

3830

just spent the last few days getting my mage up. sake, back to leveling i go onto the 5th 90 . bored of this - now

Its not that i hate Mages, just that it would be nice to see something other than a Mage always on top just because they are so easy to dominate players. Not saying warriors are much better but its nice to see Mages being used by the skilled, not the masses that just roll their face on the keyboard.

86 Human Death Knight

7065

hahahAHAHAHAHAHAha cmon mate you do better than that haHAHha.. It s a joke. hahahaAHAHA

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Mage is not even that OP what you think, goodluck surviving against meleecleave and dks with icy touch just rape us.

Glyphed Icy Touch is the most annoying thing ever for a frost mage. Constantly completely dispelled and snared taking damage.

The goal of this addon is to allow easy optimizing of the mage talent Combustion. It tracks all relevant Dots on your target, your cooldown of Combustion so you ll be.

Kudakero

why is mages dps so low in this patch be it pvp or pve. do Blizzard employees even know how to develop the mage class, i don t have to give any instances on how we mages underperform in whichever spec as those who played the mage class will already know what is the problem.

we are a pure DPS class with no access to healing or tanking, we do what our class requires which is pure DPS but even then we are so called stripped of our DPS capability by classes that have tank or healing spec. This is not a learn to play issue as i am a classic player who have been playing on and off, almost all classes have gotten a buff in damage in this patch 5.2 except mage which was hit by lots of nerfs.

i understand everyone wants a buff to their class but we don t whine for no reason,we don t have to global players in PVP we want to be competative. Blizzard people should check this forum and listen to its players to fix this class for it being so bad in terms of development.

and those who do not play a mage but criticize on this forum EXPECTO PATRONUM

Edited by Kudakero on 3/8/2013 AM PST

Aeromatic

Low DPS. Be a frost mage, you won t have any problems.

The problem was arcane being the most viable spec and by far the easiest. The level 90 talents just made it a nuisance. I think that all three specs need to be in close proximity of each other in order for it to be fair. Frost is best for PvE and PvP and fire should be best for PvE.

90 Pandaren Mage

14060

Blizzard just destroyed the Mages.

If there was any justice for mages fire would be the best pve damage. Payback for having to go frost/arcane in the days of mc

They want Mages to be harder to play.

Play better. Ghostcrawler

If there was any justice for mages fire would be the best pve damage. Payback for having to go frost/arcane in the days of mc

Who went arcane in MC.

Considering fire has been the top mage DPS spec for the majority of the game s lifespan, claiming payback for having to go frost 8 years ago is stupid.

100 Gnome Mage

16800

As Arcane I ve noticed that my single target non-movement fights, I ve lost 20-30k dps. Also Keeping Mana up is a nightmare now, since AB drains it rapidly, just to get to a 4 stack we lose 20 mana and because of our Mastery that in itself is a dps hit.

Thats showing that pre-5.2 mages were near top of the dps pack, now they re near bottom.

Noraelidra

90 Blood Elf Priest

8280

Blizzard just destroyed the Mages.

It s not the first time Mages have suffered a major nerf. Mages were the dps class in Vanilla and then maybe about 1/4 of the way into BC were beaten with the nerf bat. It was so bad that some of the more competitive servers wanted mages for tables and buffs and that was it.

So, nihil novi. It happened before and it is happening again and it ll be another class in a few patches or next xpack.

ETA: I don t think there is a way for Blizz to balance all of the classes in pvp or pve. It s like trying to keep all he subscribers happy. Good luck.

Edited by Noraelidra on 3/8/2013 PM PST

Thats showing that pre-5.2 mages were near top of the dps pack, now they re near bottom.

Indeed. I was making the point that we got smacked with the nerfbat. ;

Mistwynd

100 Worgen Mage

14165

So, nihil novi. It happened before and it is happening again and it ll be another class in a few patches or next xpack.

The only time mages ever collectively got sat due to low dps was at the end of Burning Crusade when Sunwell Plateau was the current content.

Warlocks and shadow priests had amazing synergy. Each warlock increased the dps of shadow damage done to the target. And it stacked. So the more warlocks you had the more shadow damage all your shadow damage dealers did to the target. Combined with very low mage dps at the time, and raids found they got much better results when they brought a 5th warlock instead of a second mage. Many top progressing guilds at the time would bring just 0 or 1 mage to the raid.

That stacking synergy is gone, so hopefully the issue won t be as severe now. My own raid group is progressing slowly as we only have the first boss down. On Jinrokh, I was very unimpressed with my performance. In a 10 player raid I was 5th as arcane and 4th as frost. The previous tier I very often came in 1st, yet on Jinrokh I was far in the back with 30 lower dps than our top dps. Yuck.

However, on Horridon, frost seems to do better, as I m 1st on the meter on most of our attempts due to all the cleave damage. We don t yet have a kill though so I expect my ranking to drop once we get to the final phase.

It s very disheartening seeing posts by other mages who are much further progressed, confirming that even at high levels of gear and progression, mages suck this tier.

Finally mages can t just top DPS charts in greens with one hand on the keyboard and the other hand slowly feeding a pizza to their face. Arcane Blast s damage has been reduced by 22.9 and mana cost has been increased to 1.66667 of base mana was 1.5.

Arcane Missiles s damage has been reduced by 22.1.

Arcane Barrage s damage has been reduced by 16.1.

Tears of joy streamed down my face when I read this.

It s very disheartening seeing posts by other mages who are much further progressed, confirming that even at high levels of gear and progression, mages suck this tier.

Not just that but Sunwell gave the raid a buff to Intell, making the one buff Mages could do pointless.

The problem came from people like you complainging when a fully raid geared mage joined your heroic and pulled 130k dps while you did 20k clearly your bad and then you. ed to blizzard.

Notorious

In raids mages could top, but so could soo many other classes. They just killed a class. Its people like you who do not know how to play that complain and screw the game up. People say shaman healing is tough. I have a priest as well and I am a beast with this class too. No more heroics though. Finally mages can t just top DPS charts in greens with one hand on the keyboard and the other hand slowly feeding a pizza to their face. Arcane Blast s damage has been reduced by 22.9 and mana cost has been increased to 1.66667 of base mana was 1.5.

Tears of joy streamed down my face when I read this.

i m assuming the top comment was aimed at the bottom comment.

PS - i agree with the top.

100 Blood Elf Mage

16835

Low DPS. Sellout, give in to blizzBe a frost mage, you won t have any problems.

90 Troll Shaman

13020

These 24 mages seem to disagree.

Even after accounting for movement, this doesn t look like sucking to me. Give hunters a whirl, it might make your eyes bleed if you already think mages are bad.

90 Troll Death Knight

9235

Aww how cute it s a hybrid who has no idea what he s talking about.

Mahourai

90 Blood Elf Mage

11000

Even after accounting for movement, this doesn t look like sucking to me. Give hunters a whirl, it might make your eyes bleed if you already think mages are bad.

It s really dumb to link the best parses in the world as evidence that mages are doing well right now since by their nature the best parses will almost never happen even for the best players and it s even dumber to link Simcraft, whose Mage modules are drastically incomplete, as evidence of Mage s standing relative to other DPS.

Aww how cute it s a hybrid who has no idea what he s talking about.

Hello Pot. This is Kettle. .

Don t you have some warlock forums to be whining on right about now.

You should know who you re quoting. We have the same f in points, guild, and realm.

Edited by Hakuren on 4/2/2013 AM PDT

Beadazzelle

Well Ghostcrud could at least make it fun

Boring, lackluster, mindnumbingly stupid class. Stop trying to give everyone, a dot and a bleed and a stun and invis and teleports and this and that.it s like parents with a million kids saying I ll give everyone equal presents so they can t get mad at me and I tried my best

Mages-Catpoopieget some it taste great with whine

It s really dumb to link the best parses in the world as evidence that mages are doing well right now

Except that by definition, those 24 mages are at high levels of gear and progression, and obviously aren t sucking like the OP and Co. claim they are. So unless the mages the OP talked with are lying or are actually terrible, my post denouncing his claim still stands.

EDIT: To clarify, I m guessing you didn t understand that the OP and I were talking about high level mages, and not the general masses. The OP said that high level progression/gear mages were doing terribly. The actual high level progression/gear mages are ranking just as much if not more than the other dps classes. Where mages sit as a whole is irrelevant, even though you re still by no means close to being in the dregs of dps, contrary to what you seem to believe.

Edited by Seresu on 4/12/2013 AM PDT

100 Troll Shaman

17840

So you believe that the best players can somehow control rng.

Ok then

I don t know what the hell OP is talking about, its all about your skill level. You are probably a terrible mage. I have the lowest iLvl in my guild and I beat everyone on damage as Arcane. You need to reflect more on your rotation and ability to max out your dps in anyway possible while surviving on these fights.

lol

seems like a legit claimtopping your charts as arcanelol

only issue i have atm is that i feel like even in ilvl 515 gear, as much as standing in RoP was painful.5.1 arcane was just so strong it was stupid :P i feel weak compared to thatbut not compared to any other class.

all our specs are goodarcane at the higher ilvls, myself i couldnt get decent output in 505gear so changed to frost.

aslong as you dont derp to hard and think about where you are standing and whats coming up you shouldnt really have a problem as any of the specs durumu annoys me - havent downed it yetbut i find that some attempts im doing 110k the whole timethen 70kso probably just derping more than anything :P

lol I am always top or close to top in my raid for DPS If you are not pulling over 100K as a mage in ANY of our specs you re doing it wrong

Vespeyria

6390

I guess if you arent doing enough damage with a mage its a L2P and gearing issue.

This all the recorded runs, fire is in the middle of the pack.

Now when the data is switched to top 100 parses a different picture is painted. They made the gear curve really sharp but when you get over the hump you are at the pinnacle of potential dps with fire. You are better off sticking with it through the learning and gearing curve so it becomes a more intuitive process like driving a manual transmission instead of relearning different specs over and over again. Now i see why blizz ninja nerfed pyroblast 10 when the patch dropped. It would have been the new FOTM class and I would rather have a smaller pool of more skilled mages then a bunch of bandwagon riders who don t appreciate the class but are here simply for an OP spec and would get us castrated even more due to more people playing the class.

Ok then

The best players abuse the hell out of it in their favors, without a doubt. Have you ever heard of proc stacking. The difference between good players, and the best players, is the best players force rng to work for them instead of against them. Everyone is susceptible to rng, but only to an extent.

Curioxicity

I have 3 main gripes in pvp, and the mage changes that keep coming through from Blizz ignore them:

Fire really needs an execute ability.

There are no pvp fire glyhphs if there were id have em

Fire has 1 good aoe: living bomb explosion, the only other two I like are cone of cold and frost nova. Frost nova deserves a mention because it is so integral to fire and maximizing damage, that the amount of aoe damage it does is actually really good.

Flame strike is fail for pvp; inferno blast spreading of ignite/pyro/combustion is small, complicated, messy and uninteresting and would be better rolled into a bigger ability; and blizzard is no longer relevant to how fire is played in pvp.

Fix these 3 major issues and fire would almost feel as polished as destro imo. And by this, removal of things like Blizzard and arcane explosion from the spec and replaced with more power on a good aoe or whatever, would be a great option too; its not just a call for mindless buffs to everything in the toolkit, however crappy those spells are.

Edited by Curioxicity on 4/16/2013 AM PDT

Jacara

1. You are arcane at an ilvl that cannot support your spec. Fix the obvious problems before you complain on forums. Stop making us look bad.

2. Raidbots overall data are about as usefull as overall recount. Looking at each boss individually you will see that mages have a fighting chance on most of the bosses.

Kudakero

1. You are in pvp gear, as fire spec, at an ilvl that cannot support that spec as well. You have 21 crit -_-.

Again, fix the obvious problems before you complain. Stop making us look bad.

Out of everything, we should stop complaining about Mage changes and start pointing fingers at Rogues. They have way too many run away fights in ToT. Christ almighty look at Jin rokh.

Yes someone has there head up there trouser hole in blizzards mage department I would like a serious answer as to what the thought was with these nerfs we are purely a dps class no tanking ability no heal ability and we wear cloth which may as well be toilet paper at this point the only thing we do is dps and thats gone so we just teleport people now its painfull being out damaged by pally and druid healers a warlock chaos bolts for 250k that one cast takes all shields plus 160k of health no more shields for 30 seconds it would seem all classes are critting for ridiculous amounts so why would you stack a 70k absorb as the only means of survivability it dissapears when someone runs past you evocation is useless either large cd or no heal from it and ice block is great if you wanna hang around while people laugh at your inevitable death once it ends sort it out guys the current rbg standings say there are no mages in the top 25 why have a pure dps class that doesn t dps but have heal classes that dmg and tanks that heal themselves come into a bg and test your game cause from where i m sitting you guys run a mean website but are in need of someone to sort the rest out.

Shadowboxing

My god you have never played a mage have you. Fire mages are one of the toughest classes to play and I know, since I have played so many. They have situational DPS, which requires you to create the situation. In cata, I played shatter fire. They had some top burst, medium sustained, med utility, and low survivability What are you mages complaining about, I gave mages a go in cata and fire dps was not a hard rotation. I would sit there proccing free pyroblasts while playing with one hand and slowly feeding pizza to my face. From my experience its always mages who are the first to cry to forums when they get nerfed. Did you even check the dps rankings before ToT. All 3 mage specs were the top 3. Tell me how that should be okay, while other 3 dps spec tree classes receive no where near the same treatment. So frost had the highest potential dps in game, coupled with all frost s cc and survival cooldowns. And people cry because frostbolt got a nerf

WTF is with all the necro thread recently. Seriously

I know.

LEARN TO LOOK AT THE DATES, PEOPLE.

Gregwyne

100 Human Mage

7085

this mage is still sitting on the beach head in panda land lv ed a dk to 90 a warlock to 90 and warrior to 90 i keep hoping they will reverse the nerf to frost.

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Could someone clarify this please. I m loving my x220 though I recently bought Sony VAIO Pro 11. SONY s machine is good with HD screen and it s impossibly light and thin. However I feel scared to use it because it seems so fragile Thinkpad on the otherhand can take my beating, loves the keyboard and performance. But it s bit heavy considering other machines on the block noawadays. :-

What about thinkpad Yoga. Anyone can provide more info on that model. I mean compared to X series.

Thank you very much,

regards,

Shereef

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